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president obama is demanding that higher tax rates for the wealthy and a permanent extension of the debt ceiling, the government's ability to borrow money, be part of the deal. >> he's assuming unprecedented power to spend taxpayer dollars out any limit at all. >> reporter: republicans who say they're open to raising tax revenue say they will only do so in exchange for deep spending cuts. if washington can't strike a deal, one casualty will be compensation for the long-term unemployed. that means people like linda vega, are worried. >> christmas and things of that nature are probably off the table. >> reporter: aides to president obama and speaker boehner met yesterday afternoon. but that meeting ended with no discernible signs of progress. rob and paula? >> thanks, tahman. >>> once the numbers are all tallied, they're going to show that the 2012 presidential election was the most expensive in history. campaign finance statements put the total cost at well above $2 billion. virtually split down the middle between president obama and mitt romney. that includes nearly $86 million raised by
president obama is demanding that higher tax rates for the wealthy and a permanent extension of the debt ceiling, the government's ability to borrow money, be part of the deal. >> he's assuming unprecedented power to spend taxpayer dollars out any limit at all. >> reporter: republicans who say they're open to raising tax revenue say they will only do so in exchange for deep spending cuts. if washington can't strike a deal, one casualty will be compensation for the long-term...
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tax rates for small businesses and individuals. it was a pretty good package, more than he should have expected coming off december 2010 after a month after republicans had swept the election and taken back control of the house. there's history here but now the economy is good enough that he feels he can say this is it, i'm standing my ground, we're going to end these rates and yet he still wants some stimulus in his deal, infrastructure spending. gwen: this is an interesting moment where we're not hearing a lot from either side. either they're keeping it to themselves because they're making progress or there's nothing to say. which is more likely? >> i think they're keeping it to themselves because they're making progress. there's something cooking behind the scenes. gwen: why do you think that? >> you saw last week when the president made his first offer to speaker boehner. boehner's office leaked that out almost immediately to the press and then mcconnell's office leaked out the fact that mccobble had laughed at tim geithner whe
tax rates for small businesses and individuals. it was a pretty good package, more than he should have expected coming off december 2010 after a month after republicans had swept the election and taken back control of the house. there's history here but now the economy is good enough that he feels he can say this is it, i'm standing my ground, we're going to end these rates and yet he still wants some stimulus in his deal, infrastructure spending. gwen: this is an interesting moment where we're...
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the arguments for higher taxes for the wealthy are getting very tense. ann coulter even tried a reality check on sean hannity. >> are you saying, then, for pr purposes, that they should give in to obama on the tax rate? >> not exactly. well, yeah, i guess i am, but -- >> you're saying capitulate to obama, who -- we don't have a revenue problem, ann. >> we lost the election, sean. >>> meanwhile, the house of representatives passed legislation yesterday removing the word lunatic from all federal laws. it's the latest move by congress to remove language seen as demeaning or out of date, like lunatic. >>> and in australia, prime minister julia gillard talked about the supposed prediction by the mayan calendar that the end of the world is coming in two weeks. well, she did it for a comedy video for a radio show. >> i'm confident in the prediction that the world is about to end. whether the final blow comes from flesh-eating zombies, demonic hill beasts or from the total triumph of cable, if you know one thing about me, it is this, i will always fight for you
the arguments for higher taxes for the wealthy are getting very tense. ann coulter even tried a reality check on sean hannity. >> are you saying, then, for pr purposes, that they should give in to obama on the tax rate? >> not exactly. well, yeah, i guess i am, but -- >> you're saying capitulate to obama, who -- we don't have a revenue problem, ann. >> we lost the election, sean. >>> meanwhile, the house of representatives passed legislation yesterday removing...
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the senate has already passed a bill that would make sure the middle class taxes do not go up next year by a single dime. just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%, but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is good for families like this one and that is good for the american economy. >> an added wrinkle to the fiscal cliff talks is the debt ceiling, with the government on pace to reach its borrowing limit early next year. the white house stated its position on the 14th amendment, which some theory rise is a way for the president to raise the debt limit independently, should republicans attempt to use it as a negotiating tool. >> i can say that this administration does not believe that the 14th amendment gives the president the power to ignore the debt ceiling, period. >> the fiscal cliff talks reached a new low yesterday when, somehow, the new york jets got dragged into it on the senate floor. >> it's not one of my favorite teams, but it's really, really fun to watch, and that's the n
the senate has already passed a bill that would make sure the middle class taxes do not go up next year by a single dime. just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%, but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is good for families like this one and that is good for the american economy. >> an added wrinkle to the fiscal cliff talks is the debt ceiling, with the government on pace to reach...
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two wars and bush tax cuts. melissa: we afree on that. >> bush tax cuts. melissa: we have spent way too much. this plan doesn't basically reform entitlement spending. we don't get our spending, with any of these three plans. even going over the cliff we don't get the spending in order. i will give you the last word. then we go on. >> the issue with the republicans they're losing this. they're losing the argument, the debate, they're losing everything. what we need to do is, to respond to the question, what do we do now in three weeks? let's go ahead and give 98% of the american people a tax cut. none of us are ignoring the viability and importance of looking at entitlement reform as it relates to savings, getting rid of waste fraud and abuse and other aspects. i will not tolerate increase in eligibility or raising the age but what republicans are doing is, they are putting the issue on taxes and they're not telling the american people that the enlightment reform and tax reform is an issue or issues that can be discussed in 2013 in deliberative manner liste
two wars and bush tax cuts. melissa: we afree on that. >> bush tax cuts. melissa: we have spent way too much. this plan doesn't basically reform entitlement spending. we don't get our spending, with any of these three plans. even going over the cliff we don't get the spending in order. i will give you the last word. then we go on. >> the issue with the republicans they're losing this. they're losing the argument, the debate, they're losing everything. what we need to do is, to...
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among let's put a downpaymmnt on taxes, let's let tax breaks and the upper-income folks go up. lou: president obama is loking to hide even more taxe to find more taxable victms beyond the so-called ich. but there are yet more conditionsas white ouse press secretary jay carney today reminded us. the president emnds any deal is dependent upon a hike in the nation det ceiling. carney says the debt ceiling is another issue the preident simply cannot bring himself to negotiate with those lowly republicans on the hill. and today began a new campaign of blame for the national debt directedat, yes, congress. me. >> your not going to negotiate over what is a fundamental responsibility congress, which is to pay the bills that congress cured. ithould beart of the dal. it should be done, and it should be done without trauma. lou: the president is not alone in demands for non negotiation of vat regions of the federal wastand. me ongressional democrats are also very spcific about hat they refuse to egotiate as well. for example, the conggessional black caucus nnounced that it is strony oppos
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reform said we can -- we don't have to raise tax rates, we can lower tax rates by capping deducts. he said that. lou: where is coordinated action and rhetoric from the party? i'm talking about from mayors to governors. >> we have been great with policy, but we've been clumsy courtroom communicators. >> boehner will let this backfire, we are higher taxing, no growth, no jobs, fake interest rates, in two years the republican party comes back stronger. >> we're sing is political fear at its best, by being a washington dc insider i belve we can still get a deal, we have two proposal on the table. >> to get to your point, lou, from a conservative perspective, over in 6 was a national suicide. -- november 6 was a national suicide. a very thin find red line, that red line of republican party. if this party also commits suicide, this will be catastrophic. neil: we'll explore further why it is that republicans are having trouble with two areas, one winning elects and the other governing, we'll be back with tha-team, and we'll find out who is in charge o this assault on christmas among other
reform said we can -- we don't have to raise tax rates, we can lower tax rates by capping deducts. he said that. lou: where is coordinated action and rhetoric from the party? i'm talking about from mayors to governors. >> we have been great with policy, but we've been clumsy courtroom communicators. >> boehner will let this backfire, we are higher taxing, no growth, no jobs, fake interest rates, in two years the republican party comes back stronger. >> we're sing is political...
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let the bush tax breaks expire and go back to the clinton taxes. it will hurt people a little bit, but it will hurt the wealthy more. i believe that jobs will come back if we do that. host: what about automatic spending cuts? it is not just the defense department that gets cut. non-defense, education, health care, across the board getting cut? caller: it would probably only be cut for a short time. host: so, a sacrifice by letting tax rates go up? caller: right, they will start working together if they wind up going off the cliff. host: what do you think about addressing medicare spending? caller: the biggest thing the government has to do is all of the waste in everything. defense, medicare, everything. just go after it. host: is that enough to get through our deficit and debt? caller: and raise the taxes. host: all right. mike come massachusetts, note -- mike, massachusetts. go ahead. caller: i am x military. the only reason i say that is that we have spent $2 trillion on these wars over the last 10 years, which is a whole lot of money and they s
let the bush tax breaks expire and go back to the clinton taxes. it will hurt people a little bit, but it will hurt the wealthy more. i believe that jobs will come back if we do that. host: what about automatic spending cuts? it is not just the defense department that gets cut. non-defense, education, health care, across the board getting cut? caller: it would probably only be cut for a short time. host: so, a sacrifice by letting tax rates go up? caller: right, they will start working together...
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raise the tax rate for the rich? that's at the top of the list but besides this and getting a deal done on time, what would really stuff the president's stocking, giving him a fresh start for his second term. shopping days, what would it take to make everyone happy or equally unhappy? a cut in government spending, a squeeze on medicare and medicaid. anything else? and finally hillary, clintons, both of them, global figures abroad, political superstars at home. to become in the four years, does she just have to wait? would anyone challenge her for the prize? could a hot new republican give her trouble, or cause her not to run? i'm chris matthews, welcome to the show. with us today, john harris, kelly o'donnell, michelle caruso-cabrera and david ignatius with "the washington post." first up, will president obama convince republicans to give him a compromise that's big enough, sweeping enough to end this month on a high note? to cap off his election win and get a clean start on his second term. a victory for the preside
raise the tax rate for the rich? that's at the top of the list but besides this and getting a deal done on time, what would really stuff the president's stocking, giving him a fresh start for his second term. shopping days, what would it take to make everyone happy or equally unhappy? a cut in government spending, a squeeze on medicare and medicaid. anything else? and finally hillary, clintons, both of them, global figures abroad, political superstars at home. to become in the four years, does...
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but he also again insisted there would be no deal unless tax rates went up on the wealthy. >> the closer it gets to the brink, the more stressed we're going to be. >> woodruff: president obama made the short trip to northern virginia today to underline his plan to avert the fiscal cliff. at the home of what the white house called a typical middle class family, mr. obama said he's optimistic that agreement can be reached, but again drew a hard line for republicans in congress. >> everybody's is going to have to share in some sacrifice. but it starts with folks who are in the best position to sacrifice. who are in the best position to step up . just to be clear i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up, the top 2% from going up. >> woodruff: the president phoned house speaker john boehner yesterday, their first direct talk in almost a week. but today white house spokesman jay carney wouldn't share details of the call. >> we believe it's in the interest of achieving an agreement not to do that. >> reporter: treasury secretary timothy geithner said ye
but he also again insisted there would be no deal unless tax rates went up on the wealthy. >> the closer it gets to the brink, the more stressed we're going to be. >> woodruff: president obama made the short trip to northern virginia today to underline his plan to avert the fiscal cliff. at the home of what the white house called a typical middle class family, mr. obama said he's optimistic that agreement can be reached, but again drew a hard line for republicans in congress....
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those middle class tax cuts in that legislation would protect the tax cuts for 98% of americans and 97% of small businesses. that, as we are in the midst of the holiday season, is absolutely essential to continuing to get our economy turned around and focus on job creation. >> "the new york times" reporting today that negotiations are now down to just two people. the president, the house speaker. we know that some senate democrats dispute this. what do you think about this point with regard to the negotiations and who's in the room? >> i know that the president and his advisers are focused on making sure that in the discussions that they have with both the house and the senate that whatever plan they agree to includes a balanced approach. one that's fair to the middle class and one whose math makes sense and reaches the size of the duff sit reduction we need that doesn't balance all the pain on the backs of the middle class and that makes sure that we have suspending cuts and revenue. when it comes to entitlement reform, we have an opportunity to add another hundreds of billions of doll
those middle class tax cuts in that legislation would protect the tax cuts for 98% of americans and 97% of small businesses. that, as we are in the midst of the holiday season, is absolutely essential to continuing to get our economy turned around and focus on job creation. >> "the new york times" reporting today that negotiations are now down to just two people. the president, the house speaker. we know that some senate democrats dispute this. what do you think about this point...
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state taxes went up. they are now higher than both new york city as well as hawaii. >> when it comes to jobs being added different numbers, 118,000. >> this is the first week of the month we get a lot of jobs data. storm event coming in when i say storm literally we will see the effects of super storm sandy. private job creation says businesses added 118,000 jobs in november. if it were not for sandy that number would have been north of 200,000. adt may have a stronger jobs report that's the big one economists look at. we expect 93,000 nonfarm jobs have been created last month. the numbers are weak and they suggest it's not just a storm but it is worried about the fiscal cliff holding businesses back from hiring. >> business owners and other people on e-mail which is most of us. when you are reading the e-mails and writing them you rate changes. >> pay attention i guess. do you hold your breath when you are reading an e-mail. it is e-mail apnea. study shows 80 percent of folks have it. when you hold your
state taxes went up. they are now higher than both new york city as well as hawaii. >> when it comes to jobs being added different numbers, 118,000. >> this is the first week of the month we get a lot of jobs data. storm event coming in when i say storm literally we will see the effects of super storm sandy. private job creation says businesses added 118,000 jobs in november. if it were not for sandy that number would have been north of 200,000. adt may have a stronger jobs report...
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it does tend to complicate the tax code. the simplest way is simply to raise the tax rates up to the clinton levels and, you know, we do have a strong interest in simplifying the tax code. but if that's politically for difficult, there's a willingness to retain the deductions that they could utilize. >> let me ask you about that. another interesting scenario played out with mitch mcconnell, essentially fill lee bust sistering his own bill. he says it has to guarantee that there won't be another debt ceiling crisis. but could that be where we're headed? >> well, it's certainly possible. it would be a terrible outcome and i think you're hearing business leaders weigh in and say, we don't want to go through this debate only to be followed by another big fight over the debt limit. and we just can't afford every year, every 18 months to have a debate about whether we honor the full faith and credit of the u.s. government. that's no way to run the country. >> what do you think the chances of that happening? >> it's possible. one o
it does tend to complicate the tax code. the simplest way is simply to raise the tax rates up to the clinton levels and, you know, we do have a strong interest in simplifying the tax code. but if that's politically for difficult, there's a willingness to retain the deductions that they could utilize. >> let me ask you about that. another interesting scenario played out with mitch mcconnell, essentially fill lee bust sistering his own bill. he says it has to guarantee that there won't be...
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he will not pay the tax rates. fairness is among the other americans, not him. that's my two cents more. thars all for to be the. thank you for joining us, dvr the show if you can't catch us live. have a great night. we'll see you right back here tomorrow. ♪ lou: the obama administration tonight ramping up diplomatic efforts to end seer -- syria's bloody civil war and the fear assad could use chemical weapons against his own people. the military is prepared to use poisen gas bombs, secretary of hillary clinton flew to dublin to hold a meeting with her russian counter part and u.n. enjoy to syria meeting to discuss how they would end the now 21-month long conflict in syria and how to move assad from power. and there's no sign they had to reverse the support, and today, a senior lawmaker says the syria government is now incapable of functioning properly. just before the meeting with the russian foreign minister, secretary clinton insisted that the united states and russia share common goals in the region. >> trying
he will not pay the tax rates. fairness is among the other americans, not him. that's my two cents more. thars all for to be the. thank you for joining us, dvr the show if you can't catch us live. have a great night. we'll see you right back here tomorrow. ♪ lou: the obama administration tonight ramping up diplomatic efforts to end seer -- syria's bloody civil war and the fear assad could use chemical weapons against his own people. the military is prepared to use poisen gas bombs, secretary...
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megyn: capital gains tax rate is different from the income tax rate in this country. on social security he a lower rate -- [talking over each other] megyn: president clinton lowered the capital gains rate. there is no correlation between its relation to investment income and earn income. megyn: why demonize the rich? the mortgage meltdown was a nightmare. but why demonize all of the rich? >> i hope to be rich one day. i aspire to. i would love to be a billionaire. i think people have admiration for the ones who follow the rules and who actually earn what they may. but when someone basically sits on their assets and gets 13.9% of the tax rate, i think that frustrates people. megyn: but that is legal. are you saying it's morally wrong? [talking over each other] [talking over each other] >> not at all. it is legal. but the law is asinine. there is no reason why it should be taxed. >> c-1 government enforcement of the tax code as equalization for everybody? [talking over each other] [talking over each other] >> you believe someone should earns $40 billion year should pay
megyn: capital gains tax rate is different from the income tax rate in this country. on social security he a lower rate -- [talking over each other] megyn: president clinton lowered the capital gains rate. there is no correlation between its relation to investment income and earn income. megyn: why demonize the rich? the mortgage meltdown was a nightmare. but why demonize all of the rich? >> i hope to be rich one day. i aspire to. i would love to be a billionaire. i think people have...
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but you don't have to wait for the tax hikes. $317 billion in new taxes. set to kick in january 1st. and we will show you the latest tax increase brought to you by the people who created obamacare . get ready for armageddon. is america reelly headed to help? is there any way to stop the document author of after america, mark stein joins me next. ♪ ♪ lou: welcome all fundamental dishonesty at the heart of america's financial crisis. my next guest saas americans really seems of want a european size government with current american size tax rates. one or the other has got to go. we will see. joining us now, author of the best seller, get ready for armageddon. also, a recording of -- i will explain my laughter. his new holiday cd, making spirits bright available on the amazon and itunes. i am trying to think how to do it. >> the words stuck in your throat. lou: it is terrific. it is wonderful. here to prove the point, and it's ggod to have you. i wish you lots of luck. by the way, s t eyn. that's right. and i got it covered. >> that's right. why do i have
but you don't have to wait for the tax hikes. $317 billion in new taxes. set to kick in january 1st. and we will show you the latest tax increase brought to you by the people who created obamacare . get ready for armageddon. is america reelly headed to help? is there any way to stop the document author of after america, mark stein joins me next. ♪ ♪ lou: welcome all fundamental dishonesty at the heart of america's financial crisis. my next guest saas americans really seems of want a...
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it is a combination of tax increases and spending cuts. it will take place at the end of the year faction is not taken. right now there is a standoff which christine lagarde has warned u.s. lawmakers, they have a duty to solve. we sat down with her here in washington. >> christine lagarde, the fiscal cliff, how concerned are they about the ramifications? >> people around the world are concerned about it. it appears to be the case there was more concerned about the eurozone than the fiscal cliff. now things have changed and there is more concerned about the fiscal cliff. they asked about a resolution. >> what could the impact speed? we are looking at a time when the global recovery is fragile at best. >> of u.s. is 20% of the global economy. if the u.s. suffers as a result of a fiscal cliff, a complete wiping out of its growth is going to have repercussions around the world. probably half of that. if the u.s. economy has less growth, it will probably be 1% less in mexico, canada, probably less so in europe and japan. but there will be a rip
it is a combination of tax increases and spending cuts. it will take place at the end of the year faction is not taken. right now there is a standoff which christine lagarde has warned u.s. lawmakers, they have a duty to solve. we sat down with her here in washington. >> christine lagarde, the fiscal cliff, how concerned are they about the ramifications? >> people around the world are concerned about it. it appears to be the case there was more concerned about the eurozone than the...
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you want to talk about paying taxes and your fair share? they're a tax-exempt 501c5 organization. where is ed asner's rage about their escaping and evading their fair share of taxes? i don't hear it. also, let's have a balance. if they're going to show this in the california classrooms, how about an eight-minute video narrated by clint eastwood or my favorite right thinking actor adam baldwin that exposes the truth about occupy and the teachers alliance? they have to make up this urinating image? well, you've got occupiers who have been pooping on police cars. show that to the school kids. >> sean: well said. michelle malkin. great points. thank you for being with us. >> you bet, take care. >>> >> sean: coming up next, liz cheney on the breaking news out of syria. the government stands ready to use sarin nerve gas on its own people. a senior firm confirmed this to fox news. >>> women in egypt are fearing for their lives as sex mobs are preying on the public. the situation is getting dispratt. where is the outrage and the support from the feminists who screamed about the so-called
you want to talk about paying taxes and your fair share? they're a tax-exempt 501c5 organization. where is ed asner's rage about their escaping and evading their fair share of taxes? i don't hear it. also, let's have a balance. if they're going to show this in the california classrooms, how about an eight-minute video narrated by clint eastwood or my favorite right thinking actor adam baldwin that exposes the truth about occupy and the teachers alliance? they have to make up this urinating...
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what about the payroll tax hike? >> it is a negative. people need to prepare that come the new year they are going to get less money in they paychecks. for those who haven't had a long time for a very long time or living paycheck to paycheck this is a big issue. earlier this week we spoke to the president of pennsylvania that people are pouring in reaching out to their local legislatures saying help us get some compromise because in this economy people simply can't afford it and it is january 2nd right after the new year when it will affect paychecks and one of the things, randi, that is so disappointing. this fiscal cliff didn't come out of no where. we knew it was coming, it was rolling our direction. but one thing frustrating americans is it seemed like the cliff was being ignored or put on hold while the campaign was going on. it was the day after the election. we saw the dow drop 300 points and suddenly everyone woke up and said we have to face this cliff and the question is, can they really address these issues in the next 24 days
what about the payroll tax hike? >> it is a negative. people need to prepare that come the new year they are going to get less money in they paychecks. for those who haven't had a long time for a very long time or living paycheck to paycheck this is a big issue. earlier this week we spoke to the president of pennsylvania that people are pouring in reaching out to their local legislatures saying help us get some compromise because in this economy people simply can't afford it and it is...
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>> guest: so this is a tale of two compromises, and it begins with ronald reagan, presidency, where tax reform was a humanly important issue, and hugely difficult issue to get done between republicans and democrats. those of us who lived through the reagan era recognized people thought they were polarized. tip a stanch liberal democrat, reagan, a republican. yes, they crafted a bipartisan compromise with bradley, packwood, be part of the movers of the compromise. farce -- fast forward to the affordable care act, it was arguably for difficult to craft a compromise within one party, the democratic party, because of the permanent campaign, and not just polarized, but resistance how the two parties were. the comparison between the tax reform act and the affordable care act helps to see how much more difficult compromise is, and how much more important it is for two parties to get together to craft the compromises on immigration on tax reform, and many other issues that the country now need. >> host: was there or is there a golden age of compromise through real crisis, 9/11, world war ii, le
>> guest: so this is a tale of two compromises, and it begins with ronald reagan, presidency, where tax reform was a humanly important issue, and hugely difficult issue to get done between republicans and democrats. those of us who lived through the reagan era recognized people thought they were polarized. tip a stanch liberal democrat, reagan, a republican. yes, they crafted a bipartisan compromise with bradley, packwood, be part of the movers of the compromise. farce -- fast forward to...
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even the estate tax and deductions and exemptions and he'll be done with tax reform. i think his goal is to make this set of tax changes permanents. >> i think he wants one other thing, republican fingerprints, that is votes in favor of raising rates because he knows if that happens. he decides the republican party and offers some protection for democrats for raising taxes in the next congressional election. >> absolutely. breaking the republican party would be a benefit to this plan, also, i don't think barack obama minds in the tax rates go up on the middle income people as well. >> paul: he's promised-- you're saying-- >> the ultimate win is to have all of that new revenue for the government and being able to blame it on the republicans. >> paul: wait a minute, if you're saying we go over the cliff, nothing happens in december, come january the president will not turn around and insist on the middle class portion of in tax? >> i think if he was allowed to say, look, republicans wouldn't come along on this. >> paul: wait, wait, hold, hold. 20 million people will be
even the estate tax and deductions and exemptions and he'll be done with tax reform. i think his goal is to make this set of tax changes permanents. >> i think he wants one other thing, republican fingerprints, that is votes in favor of raising rates because he knows if that happens. he decides the republican party and offers some protection for democrats for raising taxes in the next congressional election. >> absolutely. breaking the republican party would be a benefit to this...
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saying we're not budging on tax breaks. we're not going to cave in on that. but, we might end up doing something. give me a little bit of room on entitlements. i understand that's the message and the progressive message is we'll give you a little room. we don't want to give you a lot. >> if you isolate the medicare piece of it, they don't want to do anything on the individual medicare rips. maybe we could do something on -- i think the progressive wish list would be to do something on negotiating drug prices, bringing that back from the old fight, the affordable care act. so i think there is wiggle room. i think democrats are dug in on not touching social security and i would be shocked if that even entered the conversation. >> the cpi change, something the president has offered and he's ready to do that. >> i think people want to protect medicaid, obviously, and would like to protect social security. i think medicare is the rule. >> thatour gaggle will stick ar. we'll hear from the white house officially when they can first talk about the jobs report. they c
saying we're not budging on tax breaks. we're not going to cave in on that. but, we might end up doing something. give me a little bit of room on entitlements. i understand that's the message and the progressive message is we'll give you a little room. we don't want to give you a lot. >> if you isolate the medicare piece of it, they don't want to do anything on the individual medicare rips. maybe we could do something on -- i think the progressive wish list would be to do something on...
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folks that are looking at this and realizing that we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year end. we have one house, that's it. the presidency and the senate is in the democrat's hands. a lot of people are putting forth a theory and i think it has merit where you go in and give the president the 2% increase that he's talking about, the rate increase on the top 2% and all of a sudden the shift goes back to entitlements. i actually am beginning to believe that is the best route for us to take. >> but on "meet the press" house majority whip kevin mccarthy disagreed on giving way on tax increases while his counterpart in the senate, dick durbin, said the president was willing to go off the cliff if necessary. >> the president wants the rates to go up, that doesn't solve the problem. we don't want to be back here in another year, another ten years answering the same question, but the president's asking for higher rates. he's asking for more revenue. most economists agree the best way to get that is through closing special loopholes. you know what, when you close
folks that are looking at this and realizing that we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year end. we have one house, that's it. the presidency and the senate is in the democrat's hands. a lot of people are putting forth a theory and i think it has merit where you go in and give the president the 2% increase that he's talking about, the rate increase on the top 2% and all of a sudden the shift goes back to entitlements. i actually am beginning to believe that is the...
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so, you know, i think the discussion is is it really a tax problem or a tax and a spending problem? if we agree it is spending, let's start to talk about some of the spending. >> where will the compromise come, though? is there room to compromise on the tax percentage, or if you do the sliding scale and move it from the 250,000 benchmark to 500,000 income earnings benchmark. >> i think the discussion the speaker advanced which matches what the president talked about in terms of his campaign of $800 billion in new revenues, getting there through less deductions is on the table. at this point we want to see, mr. president you show us yours and we'll show us ours. these negotiations go step by step closer and closer. i do agree with an early panelist that said the president probably wants to be a little bit freer from his base and so does the speaker to some degree. we are very interested in the spending cuts, and i can tell you that if the president gives us a good deal that reduces spending, takes down the deficit, and turns the economy around and creates jobs, we're going to be all
so, you know, i think the discussion is is it really a tax problem or a tax and a spending problem? if we agree it is spending, let's start to talk about some of the spending. >> where will the compromise come, though? is there room to compromise on the tax percentage, or if you do the sliding scale and move it from the 250,000 benchmark to 500,000 income earnings benchmark. >> i think the discussion the speaker advanced which matches what the president talked about in terms of his...
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he does not want to burden them with the potential $2,000 a year hike in taxes. meanwhile, republican senator jim demint of south carolina among all -- in the midst of all the fiscal cliff talks and the pressure that's mounting here on capitol hill, well, the senator resigned the senate yesterday. he said he's going to head a conservative think tank claiming he can do more there than he can do here in congress. we'll have another report in a half-hour. back to you. >> delia goncalves with that june date from capitol hill. >>> local lawmakers are talking to 9news about the fiscal cliff. maryland senator democrat ben cardin says with the government already cutting a trillion dollars, the republicans need to give on revenue tax hikes for higher income earners. when derek mcginty asked senator cardin if he'd stay locked in a negotiating room over the holidays, he said absolutely. >> we can't allow us to go off the fiscal cliff. it would be disastrous for our economy. it would be a self-inflicted wound. we've got to get it double. woaf' -- done. we've got to compromis
he does not want to burden them with the potential $2,000 a year hike in taxes. meanwhile, republican senator jim demint of south carolina among all -- in the midst of all the fiscal cliff talks and the pressure that's mounting here on capitol hill, well, the senator resigned the senate yesterday. he said he's going to head a conservative think tank claiming he can do more there than he can do here in congress. we'll have another report in a half-hour. back to you. >> delia goncalves with...
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she was required to pay $363,000 on federal estate taxes on her inheritance that she would not have had to pay that opposite marriages get. so, a pretty clean case here and even the obama administration has already said it doesn't think the constitutionality of the defensive marriage act can withstand a legal attack. the second case the court decided to take on is proposition 8, the california ballot initiative adding a state constitutional amendment in 2008 that said only marriage between a man or woman is valid or recognized in california. it overturned a court ruling that said same-sex couples have a right to marry. the cases are likely to be heard in march and decided some time in june. randi? >> joe johns, thank you very much. >>> so, the decisions handed down next year but as jeffrey toobin told anderson cooper just the fact that they'll hear the cases is a landmark move. >> in 1967 was also the decision that said interracial marriage could not be banned by states. today that looks like, can you imagine a state that would ban interracial marriage. but 19 states still had that law
she was required to pay $363,000 on federal estate taxes on her inheritance that she would not have had to pay that opposite marriages get. so, a pretty clean case here and even the obama administration has already said it doesn't think the constitutionality of the defensive marriage act can withstand a legal attack. the second case the court decided to take on is proposition 8, the california ballot initiative adding a state constitutional amendment in 2008 that said only marriage between a...
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taxes back to the pre-bush rates. he gets all tax increases and can blame the ones not popular on republicans for not negotiating. he gets something he'll never get, never get in a negotiation. if you look at the spending cuts, half out of defense, half out of domestic. defense makes up 16% of the budget. the rest is domestic. there's no way that you're going to have any kind of budget deal that's negotiated that's going to take as much as r out of defense. >> you think he has leverage because he can say go over the cliff. >> he wants the defense cuts. he gets all of the defense cuts, more than he would get in a negotiation and all of tax increases, including the money from the unpopular ones. he wants the money because he wants more spending -- wants to be able to spend more. and he gets really a fairly small down payment on domestic discretionary cuts, half a trillion dollars is a drop in the bucket of what we have to do. he gets two things he wants. >> one of things he's going to be facing in the second term is a m
taxes back to the pre-bush rates. he gets all tax increases and can blame the ones not popular on republicans for not negotiating. he gets something he'll never get, never get in a negotiation. if you look at the spending cuts, half out of defense, half out of domestic. defense makes up 16% of the budget. the rest is domestic. there's no way that you're going to have any kind of budget deal that's negotiated that's going to take as much as r out of defense. >> you think he has leverage...
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everyone is obsessed with the taxes. taxes are very important. no one is talking about spending cuts. no one is even barely talking about the sequester, the across the board sequester. and mark, if you don't make a deal, the withholding tax rates start going up in january. the treasury and irs can postpone it but not for long. americans will feel those tack hikes in january. they'll really feel them in february. by march if there's no deal they're really going to start getting hurt and it's going to damage the economy. so what you're saying is, you got no tax cuts. they're all tax hikes. and on top of that, there's no spending. i don't think that's what the public wants. >> what i'm saying is the revenue increase has to be a smaller number than the spending cuts. democrats had better accept that. that's going to be the case. >> i don't know. you look at mr. obama's story, his revenue increases over the whole ten-year period are larger than his spending reductions according to most people who have made the score card. i don't think that's what peo
everyone is obsessed with the taxes. taxes are very important. no one is talking about spending cuts. no one is even barely talking about the sequester, the across the board sequester. and mark, if you don't make a deal, the withholding tax rates start going up in january. the treasury and irs can postpone it but not for long. americans will feel those tack hikes in january. they'll really feel them in february. by march if there's no deal they're really going to start getting hurt and it's...
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the problem is do you want to pay more in taxes or will the rich pay more in taxes? the other guys should pay more in taxes. the top 1% in this country pay 40% of the taxes. that's not fair. i wish the president would tell me what is fair? the top 10% pay 70% of the taxes. is that fair? do they want to pay 100% of the tacks? what is fair? right now the president is doing what democrats do. give me the tax increase first and then we will talk about the spending cuts. if they want to do a fair plan to benefit the american people, let's do something crazy. let's cut the spending before we talk about additional revenue. >> i think a lot of people look at this as an opportunity for the president to do something bill clinton did when he reformed welfare during his presidency which is to go after one of the democrat's say crad cows for the -- sacred cows for the sake of the country and make an impact for his legacy in the long-term. is there an opportunity to do something like that when it comes to cutting spending on our entitlement programs and to make a difference for th
the problem is do you want to pay more in taxes or will the rich pay more in taxes? the other guys should pay more in taxes. the top 1% in this country pay 40% of the taxes. that's not fair. i wish the president would tell me what is fair? the top 10% pay 70% of the taxes. is that fair? do they want to pay 100% of the tacks? what is fair? right now the president is doing what democrats do. give me the tax increase first and then we will talk about the spending cuts. if they want to do a fair...
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pressed his case at the home of a middle class family in virginia today, part of his pitch to extend tax cuts for all but the very wealthy. good evening, i'm jeffrey brown. >> woodruff: and i'm judy woodruff. on the "newshour" tonight, we update the state of the negotiations and examine the push to make changes to social security and medicare. >> brown: then, margaret warner looks at the political strife in egypt, after deadly clashes in the streets and resignations by top officials. >> woodruff: we have a battleground dispatch from a coastal city facing rising sea levels and the next big storm. >> if sandy were to come close r directly into norfolk i think we'd all be in big trouble. >> brown: we assess the latest diplomatic moves to end syria's war, as secretary of state hillary clinton meets with russia's foreign minister. >> woodruff: and ray suarez has the story of a program that aims to put students at low-achieving schools on a path to high school graduation. >> we're here to make things better. we're here to tutor kids. we're here to make sure that they stay on track. we are here
pressed his case at the home of a middle class family in virginia today, part of his pitch to extend tax cuts for all but the very wealthy. good evening, i'm jeffrey brown. >> woodruff: and i'm judy woodruff. on the "newshour" tonight, we update the state of the negotiations and examine the push to make changes to social security and medicare. >> brown: then, margaret warner looks at the political strife in egypt, after deadly clashes in the streets and resignations by top...
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enough public sentiment saying give up on the tax breaks to get a bigger deal. the president could muscle through the tax rates on his own. risks on his side. why not force him into a position where they can get sort of a bigger deal. here's what i thought was important. republicans saying to me that, you know, last july when we had the debt debacle, the feeling was don't give the president a success, don't give him a big victory because we want to have a prospect of our own candidate winning the white house. that's gone. so i think some of that is abated. >> and chris cizilla, john boehner seems to have more running room. you don't see eric cantor looking over his shoulder quite so much. >> i thought that one of the most fascinating things of the week, the "new york times" story that detailed what you're saying, andrea, that john boehner is in a stronger position than he was after the 2010 election. sort of consolidated his republican conference behind him. david is right, is i think what we know is republicans are willing ultimately, they may not say it today,
enough public sentiment saying give up on the tax breaks to get a bigger deal. the president could muscle through the tax rates on his own. risks on his side. why not force him into a position where they can get sort of a bigger deal. here's what i thought was important. republicans saying to me that, you know, last july when we had the debt debacle, the feeling was don't give the president a success, don't give him a big victory because we want to have a prospect of our own candidate winning...
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>> well, you know, howls holds also realize that tax rates are likely to go up, so we're seeing thlot of underwater homeowners-- homeowners that owe more on aeir home than it's worth-- itling this year because they get a tax break if they do it ohis year. next year they may not get it. we're seeing wealthy households give more to their favorite charities. 'vey're worried the charitable earsction they've been using for many years may get scaled back so they want to get that done this year. >> dubois: okay, mark zandi, thank you very much tonight. one of the brightest spots in the u.s. economy is car sales. 1.1 million cars and trucks were sold last month. that's up 15% over last year. thn blackstone reports while americans are spending more money on cars, they are demanding vehicles that cost them less at the bump. >> reporter: this year's l.a. auto show is bolder... and greener than ever before. more than 50 electric, hybrid, and other fuel-efficient vehicles are on display at a time when style is taking a backseat to fuel economy. fward loh, editor in chief for "motor trend" magazine
>> well, you know, howls holds also realize that tax rates are likely to go up, so we're seeing thlot of underwater homeowners-- homeowners that owe more on aeir home than it's worth-- itling this year because they get a tax break if they do it ohis year. next year they may not get it. we're seeing wealthy households give more to their favorite charities. 'vey're worried the charitable earsction they've been using for many years may get scaled back so they want to get that done this year....
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starbucks is foregoing certain tax deductions that helped reduce its tax bill to zero in britain agreeing to pay $32 million it does not owe. >>> the securities and exchange commission says netflix chief reed hastings may have violated fair disclosure rules with a facebook post saying monthly streaming hours had past 1 billion. netflix stocks soared 6% that day. >>> ibm is revamping its retirement plans contributing to employee 401 k accounts just once a year. >> "the wall street journal" reports the washington post will soon begin charging for online articles after a certain number of free ones. >>> sad news out of chicago where the maker of the academy awards oscar statue wets is planning to layoff nearly 100 workers before christmas. >>> finally, 'tis is the season for a holiday party essential, at least the fun holiday paerlts, the ugly christmas sweater. what if you don't owe one? there's one high schooler who can help you out with that. he buys them up and sells them on his website for, get this, 20 to 50 bucks each. he does this all from his parents' basement. little zuckerberg in
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tax hikes today. i think he's trying to do what he can to deflate the opposition and essentially win this vote on saturday and sort of take this as a sign that he's now free to lead the way he wants to and use the military if necessary to enforce that lead. >> meantime let's talk about syria. the civil war there spilled over to lebanon where at least 17 people were killed in recent clashes. nbc news reported president assad is getting chemical weapons ready to use on his people. of course, they've denied it. where do you put the threat level? >> well, i think the threat level is certainly increasing. you know, we obviously don't have access to those intelligence reports. but you've heard lots of signs of alarm from u.s. officials that there are indications of these chemical weapons are being prepared for use. when you combine that with the signs that maybe assad's forces are in a little bit more danger from the rebels than they were before, you might think that perhaps the regime is becoming desperate
tax hikes today. i think he's trying to do what he can to deflate the opposition and essentially win this vote on saturday and sort of take this as a sign that he's now free to lead the way he wants to and use the military if necessary to enforce that lead. >> meantime let's talk about syria. the civil war there spilled over to lebanon where at least 17 people were killed in recent clashes. nbc news reported president assad is getting chemical weapons ready to use on his people. of...